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Starling Cycles’ First Carbon Fibre Frame

Ladies and gents, presenting Starling Cycles’ first carbon fibre full suspension mountain bike frame, or more specifically eMTB frame.

… But before you get too excited, read on. There’s a little more to it.

As many of you may know I (yep, it’s me, Joe McEwan, founder of Starling Cycles) had a previous life as an Aerospace Engineer, with many of my years of experience focussing on R&D for Carbon Fibre structures. 

Old habits die hard, and when we had the opportunity to work on a project with the National Composite Centre (where I had previously worked as Technical Lead for GKN who were a partner), it was difficult to refuse.

But wait a minute, doesn’t Starling only makes steel bikes? And didn’t I always say carbon bikes are rubbish?! 

Yes, we only make steel bikes.  But no, I never said carbon is rubbish, it’s just that having worked in aerospace and seen carbon manufacture to the highest level, I don’t believe current carbon manufacturing methods for bikes offer anywhere near the kind of quality I’m used to. 

But this project offered an opportunity to try and change that… So why not?

The idea of the project was to use braided thermoplastic tubes with novel design lugs. The thermoplastic has several advantages over traditional epoxy-based carbon fibres:

  • Firstly, thermoplastic is much tougher against impact damage than epoxy.  Many people are not aware, but with an epoxy composite you can take an impact that shows no damage on the outside, but there could be significant internal damage within the laminate that risks the integrity of the structure.  This is not a problem with thermoplastic based composite where the internal damage is much less likely to occur due to high plasticity of the material.

  • Secondly, the thermoplastic can be reformed, which means it is much more amenable to repairs.  Whereas epoxy is quite often restricted to ‘cosmetic’ repairs.  

  • The ability of the thermoplastic to be reformed means that, although it can’t be recycled (I’ll come onto this in a moment) it can be repurposed in a much easier way.  For example, old frames could be returned to the manufacturer and the tubes cut out and reformed into a smaller frame size.  Theoretically, you could heat up a thermoplastic composite and remove the plastic matrix and retrieve the carbon fibres.  But realistically, this would use significant amount of energy and reduce the properties of both materials.

    • As an aside, we need to be super careful when using the term, ‘recycled’, to me it is a cycle than can continue for ever. Steel for example, can be recycled.  It can infinitely be melted down and reformed into pristine new material.  Noting some super high grade steel do require pristine ore.  
    • Plastic cannot be recycled, there is always a degradation in quality with each cycle.  The life may only be three or so cycles.  This is not recycling, just reusing.  
    • Epoxy Carbon fibre can never be recycled, as much as some people will try to tell you it can.  Currently, as best it can be chopped up and maybe used as filler in short strand plastics.  Mostly it is chopped up and used a filler, or mug coaters.  And this one short reuse with much degraded qualities is about as far as you can go.

  • Thermoplastic composite require much less energy to manufacture than epoxy composites.  The time to heat for epoxies to cure and therefore the energy requirements are much more.

  • The solution being worked on also offers significant quality benefits and ability for mid-process inspection.  This means manufacturing scrap rate will be significantly reduced.  I’ve heard up to 50% for some epoxy carbon frames, i.e. the piles of frames going into the sea we have all seen.

Because of the above points: tougher, repairable, re-useable, lower energy to manufacture, better manufacturing quality, thermoplastic carbon frames present a much less environmentally damaging solution for bike frames than epoxy-based carbon frames.  

So, with all these benefits, the project looked to develop a new high volume, low cost, high-quality manufacturing process for carbon fibre bike frames.  We made significant process and built a beautiful looking eBike frame.  It used a Freeflow technologies motor system, sitting within a machined aluminium motor casing, this region was too tricky for the carbon process at such early stages.  It also had a jack drive system like our Sturn DH bike and a steel swingarm to get all the compliance and grip that Starlings are famous for.  There were also a few other little treats such as a 3D printed stainless steel shock mount.

So the bike looks great, but the manufacturing process for the lugs didn’t work out quite as we planned and we didn’t come up with a solution we were fully happy with.

I’d love to go into the details, but there are some pretty clever and novel ideas that I’d prefer to keep to myself! Going forward we are working with the NCC to perform more studies to refine the technology. In the meantime, 76Projects stepped in and produced some 3D printed lugs to allow us to build the mock-up bike. 

Going forward we have more studies happening to refine the technology. It’s a long way off being a finished bike, or even being rideable, but it was a super interesting project.

We’re not quite there yet, but it’s exciting stuff!

You can read more about this over on CompositesWorld.com.

Thanks to the National Composites Center, Composite Braiding Bristol, 76Projects and Freeflow Technologies.

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Video: Starling Presents Fleur TK

Starling rider Fleur is a true one of a kind.

By day, Fleur is an ambulance driver and student paramedic. If you’ve not seen her racing round Bristol with the blues-and-twos wailing, she might well have patched you up at Dyfi Bike Park. 

Before training to save lives, she spent over a decade risking her own, racing yachts around the world and getting into more than a few sticky situations on the high seas. 

And, of course, she absolute shreds on that pink Swoop of hers. Loose as a goose, not afraid to hit the big jumps and totally in love with scaring the shit out of herself on the high-speed and technical stuff. Perfect for the Starling Cycles crew!

We spent the day with Fleur, on the river and on the trails, to get to know her a bit better.

You can follow Fleur on IG at https://www.instagram.com/fleurtk_

Film by @openwide_agency (Dom John and Jamie Edwards).

Photos by Stephen Sweeney.


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Death to Derailleurs, The Starling Spur

Introducing the Best Descending Bike Starling Has Ever Produced

Starling Cycles is pleased to announce the launch of the new Starling Cycles Spur.

Our latest ‘Rare’ bike, the Spur joins our family of limited edition misfits with a high-pivot suspension platform, an Effigear gearbox and 170mm of travel.

It is, to put it simply, an absolute monster.

  • Front triangle and swingarm hand-built in Bristol, UK, using Reynolds 853 heat-treated tubing
  • 170mm travel
  • Effigear 9spd drivetrain with 440% range, including cranks, shifter and cogs
  • 29″ wheels
  • 2.6″ tyre clearance
  • Up to 200mm rotor
  • Designed for single speed 142x12mm rear hubs
  • Unique Starling dropouts system means rear wheel can be removed without adjusting tension
  • Seattube reinforcing strut on XL
  • Integrated seat-clamp
  • Stainless & numbered dropper port
  • Starling headtube gusset
  • Bottle mount in frame on medium & above

Packing 170mm of travel, 29″ wheels and the Effigear system, the Spur is the bike for big-terrain enduro racing, double-black bike park laps and hassle-free seasons in the mountains.

The Spur’s high-pivot, gearbox design is deadly fast on rough, technical terrain. Zero chain growth, zero chain forces, zero worries about smashing mechs. You’ll experience incredible small bump performance, endless grip in all conditions, a beautifully light rear wheel and the best descending bike we’ve ever made.

The Spur wasn’t a quick bike to create. We’ve worked closely with Effigear to build the bike from scratch around their 9-speed system, offering a 440% range to get you up those technical climbs to the trailhead. The Effigear system works with a standard trigger shifter, meaning no annoying gripshift.

You’ll also experience a super light rear-wheel which adds up to an amazing suspension feel on the trail and no rear mechs to maintain, damage or replace.

In building the high-pivot suspension platform, we took everything we’d learned from the Starling Staer and Sturn. The high pivot reduces any of the forces that affect suspension performance on the trail and creates an incredibly planted bike that offers mountains of grip in all conditions, including under braking. 

The Spur is available to order now from Starling Cycles and is built by hand in Bristol, UK using Reynolds 853 steel heat-treated tubing. There is a 16 week lead time on all orders and frames are available with or without shock and with a variety of components to help build your dream bike. 

As a member of Starling’s ‘Rare’ collection, the Spur will be limited edition and made to order on a first-come-first-served basis. 

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Does Mountain Bike Weight Really Matter?

Does mountain bike weight or mountain bike frame weight matter?

Does the weight of your mountain bike frame really make a difference? Starling Cycles’ owner Joe McEwan wades into the debate and shares his thoughts:

Starling frame weight is about 3.6kg. Our bikes build to about 14-15kg with average components. 13kg if you throw money at it.

Weight is not an important factor for a bike. Wheel weight matters, but not frame weight. It’s just a convenient metric for marketing

How much do you weigh? I’m 80kg, plus say 15kg for a bike and 5kg kit. A total system of 100kg. If you were to swap one of my frames for an absolutely top end lightweight carbon frame, you’d save at most 1kg (plus a 100g lighter wallet). So 1kg in a 100kg system is 1% saving in weight.

Weight matters due to the extra energy you need to put into the system to climb (it’s not just the bike that goes uphill). So 1kg saving is 1%… Well, not quite, we also need to consider rolling resistance, air resistance, and mechanical inefficiencies, these all act to reduce the impact of weight. So 1% is massively reduced.

If you are a Tour de France roadie, weighing 45kg, racing a 7kg bike, and a small percentage will affect if you win or not, then maybe it matters. For everyone else, it doesn’t. If you were talking about 5-10kg differences in weight, then maybe there’s an argument there, but not at small weight differences

Wheel weight does matter as it is rotational and on technical climbs you constantly need to accelerate the wheels. Also, the gyroscopic effects of a heavy wheel makes the bike harder to move around. I think it’s these factors that make people think that heavy bikes are hard to ride. Heavy bikes tend to come with heavy wheels.

I do however have to concede that if you constantly ‘hike-a-bike’, then weight becomes a bit more of a problem. But in this case, the nice open front triangle and small tubes on a Starling make the bike easier to carry and this is probably far more important.

You can check out Starling’s complete range of mountain bike frames here.

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Nobody Likes a Stuck Seatpost

Within my frame care page, I mention that you need to move your seatpost once in a while. Move your seatpost!

Steel and aluminium undergo a process called galvanic corrosion that causes them to bond together.

A liberal coating of grease will stop this happening, but in the long run the grease will stop being effective, so you need to keep renewing it.

Modern dropper post mean you don’t move the post regularly. So, one a month just move your post up and down a couple of inches. Once every six months you should remove it and regrease it, sorted.

There’s a great little video about Galvanic corrosion here.

Check out the Starling frame care page here.

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Let’s Talk Standards on Starling bikes

Let’s be honest, the majority of new standards are put in place by big brands to make old bikes obsolete and require you to buy a whole new bike rather than just a frame.

Boost is a classic example, wider is stiffer right? Firstly, stiffer is not necessarily better. Secondly, wide hubs spacing increasing spoke angle, but conversely increase spoke length which reduces stiffness.

For forks, a much wider crown is less stiff. Is all that pain and cost really worth it for a few more millimetres? Is the bike any more fun to ride? Does it make you faster than your mate? Of course not.

So, at Starling, I will do all I can to avoid inventing new standards and make sure I use the ones that seem the best solution to me. As an engineer, it’s my bread and butter to design to the best of my capability within the specification given to me.

I relish the challenge.