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What’s Up With The Starling Cycles Roost Chainstay Yoke?

The Starling Cycles Roost is our stainless steel, do-it-all hardtail mountain bike frame. Mullet wheels, stainless steel frame, boost and non-boost compatible, room for 2.8″ tyres and compatibility with 120mm to 160mm forks. And, of course, it’s beautiful and shiny.

The Starling Roost does however have a unique feature that you won’t find on any other hardtail mountain bike. A unique, Starling-designed, proprietary chainstay yoke.

Here’s Joe’s explanation of what that chainstay yoke is and why we’ve made it.

Starling Cycles Roost frame with close up of chainstay yoke.

The bottom bracket/chainstay/chainring region of any hardtail mountain bike is always a tricky region to design a solution for.

Large tyres, chainring position and the desire for a short chainstay length mean that the clearance available for the chainstays to fit is small. There are a multitude of different solutions used by hardtail mountain bike companies: from simple sheet metal plates to complex machining.

starling roost hardtail chain stay

(Image above – the chainstay yoke design on the Starling Cycles Roost)

In designing the Starling Cycles Roost I spent a long time looking at existing solutions and none seemed elegant to me. They all seemed to be fitting something that was either too thin or overly complex.

But the answer was staring me in the face. The Starling Cycles Murmur, MegaMurmur, Roost and Twist full suspension bikes solve this problem very easily.

Our steel full-suspension mountain bikes use a simple tubular yoke that joins the chainstays. In the case of the full-suspension Starling Cycles bikes, the yoke is then joined to the machined main pivot parts.

The Chainstay yoke on our V3 full-suspension frames.

(Image above – the chainstay yoke design on our V3 full suspension frames)

But for the hardtail it’s just as easy to use two small machined parts that joint to the bottom bracket. And since the yoke doesn’t need to move, we can add further strength and rigidity by mitring and welding to the seat tube.

What we end up with on the Starling Roost is a strong, stiff, elegant solution. It might be different to everything else out there but it works and works well.

And, I think that making something unique is good. Why just look like every other hardtail mountain bike?

Starling Cycles Roost Frame on a wall with red ivy in the background

It also has the added benefit of keeping some visual similarity to the Starling full-suspension mountain bikes. I actually really like the aesthetics of the slightly raised chainstays and heaps of people who see it in person agree.

The design does result in a slightly higher chainstay than other configurations. But this has never been a problem with the full-suspension bikes, so no issue here! You can even run a 28t chainring.

“But what about chainslap?!” you all shout.

Well again, its been no issue on the full-sus bikes, which are silent on the trails. In my mind, having the chain closer to the chainstay means there’s less energy in the chain when it makes an impact, so less noise. But, this is a moot point as with some good quality chainstay protection (3M 2228 tape, or VHS tape work well), it’s just not an issue.

So that’s what’s up with the Starling Cycles Roost chainstay yoke.

It’s not like everyone else’s design, and it works and works well.

You can learn more about the Starling Cycles Roost hardtail mountain bike right here.

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Workshop Chatter: The MegaMurmur

Joe battled his Ardrock ‘angover to dig deep into the all new Starling Cycles MegaMurmur – our new long travel 29er.

The MegaMurmur is our latest creation – long travel version of the Murmur with a longer swingarm. The latest video spends some time digging deep into the bike to understand the what and why of our new monster truck.

We’re also talking about Team Starling at Ardrock, why we teamed up with Moor Beer in Bristol for our most recent photoshoot and the new EXT Aria rear shock.

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Shorter Lead Times On Starling Frames

Great news if you’re looking to order a Starling Cyles frame.

We’ve just moved into the new workshop, we’re able to manufacture at a better rate and, we’ve managed to refine a few processes to improve efficiency.

We’ve also looked at our orders and (no surprises here) most of our customers are ordering Medium or Large frames.

And so, we’ve been able to make some improvements.

After a bit of planning and improvement, we’ve been able to cut our manufacturing time down pretty significantly.

Murmur and Twist frames in Medium, Large and Extra Large sizes can now be manufactured in 50% of the time that we’d previously been working.

Our usual lead time is 16 weeks, meaning you’d usually get a frame within 16 weeks of pressing ‘buy’. From now on, we’re able to cut that in half, delivering M, L and XL Murmur and Twist frames after just 8 weeks of you placing your order.

And in case you’re wondering, there are no changes to the manufacturing process, build speed or quality of the product. We’re just focussing on batch-manufacturing the most popular sizes that we know will be needed the most. The other sizes will remain exactly the same, at 16 weeks.

Order soon and you’ll be riding your new Starling in the summer sun with plenty of dusty trails, grippy lines and mud-free days left to enjoy your new frame.

Bear in mind though – it’s first come, first served and if this proves popular it might impact lead times. So, don’t hang about if you want to be at the top of the queue.

USA Customers – contact Trail Labs to place your orders. Trail Labs is now our USA supplier, based in Springfield, Missouri. They can supply custom paint jobs, frame-only, full builds and custom options.

EU Customers – we’re now working with BikeTheWorld which can supply to the EU without risk of import or VAT charges and are holding stock in Europe. They’re also able to do full builds, frame-only, custom options etc.

This applies to Murmur and Twist, Medium, Large and Extra Large only.

You can browse the full range of Starling Cycles frames here.

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(Re)introducing our Frame Repaint and Refurbishment Service

Did you know that we can refurbish and repaint your frame for you…?

Turns out we (oops) forget to actually tell anyone about it – so – it’s about time we made a little more noise.

First up, let’s just say that we think a little wear-and-tear is a beautiful thing.

Our bikes are steel and single-pivot. They’re meant to be thrashed down mucky hillsides, chucked in vans and hastily washed.

Ridden hard, put away wet, all that good stuff.

But we accept that there’s a point where ‘patina’ can become ‘looks crap’.

When things get really bad, we offer a frame repaint and refurbishment service to help get your frame back to looking and feeling good as new.

The Refurb and Repaint service offers the following:

  • We’ll strip and repaint your frame in any current colour.
  • We’ll replace your graphics in any current colour.
  • We’ll replace your bearings.
  • We’ll give your frame a check and recommend any further work that might be required.

Once your frame comes back it’ll look box-fresh, will have brand new bearings and (we think) is a super good value way of getting a ‘new’ frame without forking out for a brand new one.

The cost of the service is £200 + VAT and shipping.

Contact us via the website first to arrange the work. We’ll confirm timescales, shipping costs and any other details.

You’ll then need to strip your frame down and ship it to us. Give it a proper clean so it arrives to us free of dirt. Remove the rear shock and components, including the headset, bottom bracket, chain guide, seat clamp etc.

Leave the rear axle in to protect the frame in transit.

You’ll need to carefully package up your frame so it can’t be damaged by the courier and ensure you take out any insurance.

Outbound shipping is your responsibility. We can provide some recommendations when you book.

And, that’s it. Full details are here on our Warranty, Repair and Refurb page.

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Workshop Chatter: How To (Properly) Set Up Your Mountain Bike

Are you considering how you should set up your mountain bike?

STOP right there a minute and let’s have a chat.

SO many people come to us looking to buy a bike built around their one week a year in the Alps. Or those few days a year in the bike park.

They put big travel FIRST and build a big, hardcore, downhill-focussed, gravity machine but NOT the lively, spritely, easy-to-ride, fun bike that better suits the trails they’re riding 75% of the time.

In this episode, we’re talking all about how travel isn’t the most important factor in speccing your mountain bike.

We’re also talking about how you should set up your suspension to better suit your riding and how wheels, tyres and inserts play a part in this.

Grab a cuppa and strap in – this one’s a bit of a brain melter!

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Workshop Chatter: Stainless Murmur Deep Dive

We’re back Workshop Chattering and for the latest episode we’re digging deep into the mighty Starling Cycles Stainless Murmur.

The video talks through all of the interesting features that make the Murmur Stainless what it is, including a load of the V3 technology that a few people maybe don’t realise they include.

We’re also talking about our latest collab with Cane Creek, the limited edition Stainless Murmur Cane Creek Edition.

Whilst we’ve been offering a free Hope headset and seat clamp with our stainless frames for a little while, the new collab gives you a chance to add a Cane Creek fork and shock to your build at a really awesome price.

The Stainless Murmur can now be supplied with one, or both of the following:

Cane Creek Progressive IL Shock and Volt Progressive Spring + £100 (RRP £550)

Cane Creek Helm 29″ Fork 150mm + £600 (RRP £1050)

You can learn more about the Stainless Murmur here.

Starling Cycles Stainless Murmur frame on wall with red ivy behind

If you’d prefer to read, rather than watch we’ve got a transcript of the video here:

Hello everyone, Joe from Styling Cycles here.

Going to do another workshop chatter, and today we’re going to talk about this, which is the Stainless Starling Cycles Murmur.

So, I’ve always liked the idea of stainless frames. We get a lot of people getting in touch with us, saying they want raw frames, they want their frames unpainted. The Reynolds tube frames, the carbon steel frames, you have to paint them. If you don’t paint them, they rust. Even if you put a lacquer on them, moisture gets behind the lacquer, and they eventually rust.

It’s not like BMX frames. BMX frames are quite often left raw and lacquered, but they’re not subjected to damp Welsh woods. They’re not subjected to jet washing. They just don’t take the damage and the hits, and BMXs are a bit more forgiving. Mountain bikers, if they start getting rusty frames, get a bit grumpy.

So, stainless is the solution. We get a lovely, beautiful, raw frame in lovely, shiny stainless steel.

But recently, we’ve kind of seen the sales of these frames drop off a little bit, and I think there’s been a bit of confusion as we’ve released the V3 frames. I think people have got a little bit confused about it, asking “Is the Stainless Murmur the latest frame? Is it a V3?” So, I’m just gonna give a little bit of description about that.

As we did with the V3 video the other day, we’ll start from front to back and talk about the changes.

So, this is actually version two of the Murmur frame.

The initial batch, we just did a really small number, and then this has been updated when these landed, I think perhaps six months ago.

So, it has the thicker head tube, an anti-flare head tube. So, again, yeah, we had some issues on some of our frames with flared head tubes. This Stainless Murmur has that stronger head tube.

Also the cast main pivot part of V3, so the bearings have been moved into the frame. We’ve got this cast main pivot part, which increases the strength here, allows you to move the bearings to the outside to make the bearing seating wider, and allows the bearings to last longer.

All of the frames that come from Taiwan have an insert, an aluminium insert in the seat tube, so there’s no risk of any galvanic corrosion.

The thing it hasn’t got, which the new V3 frames do, it hasn’t got the head tube gusset. These frames are made in Taiwan. They’re not made in the UK by Starling. We haven’t got the skills yet to do stainless steel. These are made by Ora. Ora are the best in the world at doing stainless frames. The welding is beautiful. The quality is amazing. You know, they are beautiful frames, so we subcontracted them for these.

Ora are a little bit conservative about some things, and they’ve never built a frame with a plate-type gusset, and because they’ve never done it, they don’t want to do it for us. So it’s got a doubler-type gusset, which a lot of frames have. So it’s just a different way of strengthening. I personally like the plate with the little bird details, but lots of people don’t actually. We get a lot of people who don’t like it, and this gives a cleaner silhouette. So it hasn’t got the head tube gusset. It’s just got a different solution.

One of the big things it hasn’t got is the adjustable shock mount. So this still has a fixed shock mount. It can only fit a 210 by 55mm shock for 140mm rear travel. If you’re never going to run a longer shock, if you want to run it in trail mode, if you want to run it as a trail bike, then 210 by 55mm is perfect. And our last Enduro frames were 140mm rear travel. It’s more travel than it feels, or than you think it is, is plenty.

The other thing that Stainless Murmur hasn’t got is the slight geometry changes we made for the V3 frame. So the bottom bracket is four mm lower than the V3, and the seat angle is one-degree slacker. But if you’re running this as a trail bike, if you’re running it with a 150mm fork, say that geometry is perfect. It’s still a 77° seat angle. The bottom bracket raising and the steeping up seat angle helps more with the Enduro model bike. That’s slackened out by the longer fork.

So this as a trail bike, and this is the bike I’ve personally been riding for the past three years.. Since we got the first samples, I’ve been riding the Stainless Murmur with a 160mm fork as my Enduro bike. But you can get a little bit more travel out the V3 now, but as a trail bike, this is still a fantastic bike.

So we’ve recently teamed up with Cane Creek.

We’ve started supplying their shocks with our frames, and now we’re gonna start supplying forks. And thought to kind of celebrate this, we’ve do a bit of a limited edition with the Stainless Murmur.

At the moment, all the Stainless Murmurs come with a free Hope headset and seat clamp in any colour you want. But this one has a Cane Creek Inline coil rear shock for 140mm travel and a Helm fork. But this is a 150mm travel, 44 mm offset, coil.

And to me, we’re making a pretty amazing bike here. 150mm coil on the front, 140mm coil on the rear. This is a pretty amazing bike. It will do most people for most things. Swap the wheels out for different purposes, lightweight wheels for trail builds, heavy wheels for enduro builds, and it will be a pretty capable bike, able to do everything. The sort of one bike for everybody.

So part of celebrating this teaming up with Cane Creek, we’re going to do a mega deal on this frame.

So the frames, as I said, come with the free Hope headset and seat clamp at the moment. We are doing an upgrade to the Cane Creek inline coil shock for only a hundred pounds extra on the price of the frame. So an absolute bargain to get you a fantastic bike. And then the coil fork we’re doing for just 600 pounds upgrade. So the retail on the headset and seat clamp is 110 pounds. The retail on this shock with the Volt progressive spring is 550 pounds. And the retail on these forks is 1,049 pounds. So we’re doing an absolute bargain deal on these.

So if you’re interested, go on the website, go to Stainless Murmur and all the details there, and it’ll take you through to the shop and you can buy yourself one and have one of these fantastic bikes.

Only thing to note, we haven’t got any mediums left. We’ve only got larges and extra larges. So sorry for the people who want a medium, but yeah, sorry!

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Dream Build: V3 Starling Murmur

Gee Milner’s latest Dream Build goes live at 1800 UK-time on Friday 27th Jan.

Gee and co’s latest instalment of pushbike ASMR features our brand new V3 Murmur frame in Champagne, built up with a full Shimano XTR groupset, Fox Factory suspension, Cush Core, Race Face wheels and Deity finishing kit.

All built using Juice Lubes bike wash and bike maintenance products, our workshop partners of choice here at Starling

Don’t forget to hit ‘Notify Me’ on Youtube if you show up early!

You can learn more about the Starling Cycles Murmur here.

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Roost Wins Bike Rumor Editor’s Choice Award

It’s always nice to receive an award for our work, and an 11th-hour ‘Bike Rumor Editor’s Choice’ just slipped in for the closing days of 22.

Bike Rumor’s Jessie reviewed our stainless hardtail, the Starling Cycles Roost, back in March dubbing it a “singletrack stoke machine”. She praised the Roost’s “great cornering characteristics” saying that it corners “incredibly well”. She also had a blast on her local Scottish downhill trails saying that it felt “very balanced and composed”.

Her closing comments were probably our favourite of any review so far “I had an unrealistic amount of fun testing this bike. The thrill associated with the unmatched immersive riding experience of a hardtail, paired with the Roost’s incredibly capable set of geometry figures and its smash-worthy spec list, ensured there was a huge smile on my face at the end of every single ride. From social laps of the local enduro trails, fitness-building blasts around the trail centre reds, and moor-top XC-style journeys, the Starling Roost delivered every time.” Winner.

Proof she really did love the bike, Jessie has chosen the Roost for an Editor’s Choice Award, reminding readers just how much fun she had on our hardtail. Editor’s Choice Awards represent Jessie’s pick of the very best of the bits and bikes she’s reviewed during the year – only the very best make the cut and, as she says “if I found it to have an unforgivable, fundamental flaw, it is not featured“.

“I found very little to complain about during my time aboard the Starling Roost. It rails corners and tackles the gnar with far more finesse than it (or I) ought to. This one put a huge smile on my face. A 64° head angle, 425mm rear-center and CushCore Pro in the front and rear may have had something to do with it”

You can read the full story over on BikeRumor, here.
You can read the full BikeRumor StarlingCycles Roost hardtail review, here.

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Workshop Chatter: Starling Cycles V3 Frames Walkthrough

From around November 2022 onwards we introduced a number of rolling changes to Starling Cycles Murmur, Swoop and Twist frames.

These updates don’t change the visual ‘look’ of our frames but they’re significant enough that they mark the next step in the evolution of our designs and warrant a bit of extra attention.

We’re calling these latest designs ‘Version 3’ and any Starling Cycles Murmur, Twist or Swoop frames on order from here on out will be built with this update.

Let’s take a look at what Starling Cycles V3 frames offer…

Let’s start by saying that whilst these updates appear subtle, they are pretty significant.

The silhouette of our steel, single-pivot mountain bike frames obviously hasn’t changed, but they’ve added some really important evolutions that’ll just make riding and living with your Starling Cycles mountain bike a little easier.

We’ve not reinvented the wheel, so don’t feel like your V1 or V2 Starling Cycles frame is now out-of-date, but we have evolved our designs forward for the next few years.

We’re pretty proud of what we’ve achieved, particularly because they have such a subtle impact on the visuals of our bikes.

Trail and Enduro Modes On All Frames
The most significant change is that all V3 Starling Cycles Murmur, Swoop and Twist frames can now be configured into ‘Enduro’ and ‘Trail’ modes using an adjustable shock mount.

The previous design meant you needed to commit to ‘Enduro’ or ‘Trail’ at the point of purchase, whereas both can now be achieved from a single V3 Starling Cycles frame.

Just choose the mode you want when you order and we’ll deliver your bike configured for that setup.

If you decide that you’d like to change, our adjustable shock mount lets you switch between ‘enduro’ and ‘trail’. You’ll need to swap your rear shock, and potentially your fork, but you won’t need a completely new frame as you used to on previous frame designs.

Let’s say you start with a Starling Murmur Enduro, built with a 160mm fork. You might decide that it’s too much travel for your trails. By switching to a 210mm x 55mm shock you’ll reduce the rear travel down to 135mm, adjust the geo to be a little less ‘enduro’ and switch your bike to ‘trail’ mode. You could also then purchase a travel adjust kit for your fork – still cheaper than buying a new fork – and adjust the fork travel down to match your new setup. Hey presto, new bike without new-bike money.

These updates mean that V3 Starling mountain bike frames offer the following rear travel:

  • V3 Starling Murmur – 135mm (trail) or 150mm (enduro)
  • V3 Starling Twist – 135mm or 160mm
  • V3 Starling Swoop – 130mm or 160mm 

And Updated Geometry
V3 Starling Cycles frames also see a number of tweaks to geometry, based on our experience and rider feedback.

The seat angle has been steepened for an improved pedalling position and, based on feedback, the BB has been raised a touch to add a little more clearance and a little more manoeuvrability to our very stable geometry.

V2 geo received plenty of praise from riders and the media and these light-touch updates for V3 simply refine those numbers to be even better. 

No More Seized Seat Posts
Stuck seat posts are a curse for steel mountain bike frame owners, and are now a thing of the past for our frames.

There’s now a new aluminium insert in all V3 seat tubes. No more panicky calls to the bloke in South Wales with the seat-post-puller, and no need to keep shoving grease down your seat tube every time you leave the house. You’re welcome!

New Colours

Starling Cycles frames now have even more customisation than ever before.

Tired of those boring paint jobs and lack of customisation offered by the big boys of the bike industry?

There’s now a whole heap of colour options to create your one-of-a-kind dream boat. Choose a ‘standard’ grey front triangle with black swingarm or upgrade and pick from 10 colours, including four premium metallic paints and three graphics options.

And nope, your front doesn’t have to match your back.

You can pick a colour for your front triangle and a totally different one for the rear, meaning you can create something really special. Powder Pink and Pumpkin Orange anyone..?

And More… 
There’s also now a stronger, anti-flare headtube to keep your frame safe when you’re really, really sending it (or forgetting to keep your headset tight).

There’s a neater and better-looking cast main pivot part and there’s an even easier-on-the-eye asymmetrical headtube gusset.

Last but not least, we’ve made the big move to shift the main pivot bearing into the swing arm. Previously located in the frame, placing the bearing in the swing arm makes maintenance easier and offers a wider and more robust interface.

Already a breeze to maintain, this update makes Starling Cycles frames even easier to live with than ever before. 

Any questions? Feel free to get in touch and we’ll get back to you.
Ready to check out the bikes? The complete collection is here.

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Workshop Chatter #4 Can I Convert My Mountain Bike to Mullet?

Boy oh boy do we get a lot of questions about mullet mountain bikes.

“Is a mullet better than 27.5″ wheels?”
“Is a mullet better than 29″ wheels?”
“Should I mullet my mountain bike?”
“Are mullet bikes faster?”
“Can I convert my Starling Cycles Swoop/Murmur to Mullet?”

“Can I convert my mountain bike to mullet or mixed-sized wheels?”

We love mullets, or mixed-wheel, or MX mountain bikes and we make our own, the Starling Cycles Twist.

But as you’d expect it’s not as simple as mullet mountain bikes just being ‘better’ than the other sizes. And, as you’d also expect, converting your existing mountain bike to mullet wheels also isn’t super straightforward.

Time for a good chat about mullet mountain bikes, the Starling Cycles Twist and to answer once and for all whether you can convert your bike, particularly your Starling Cycles, bike to a mullet.

First up, what’s a mullet or mixed-wheel mountain bike?

Mullet wheels are also known as mixed wheels, or MX wheels.

Named after the classic work up front, party behind hairstyle, a ‘mullet’ is a mountain bike with a 29″ wheel up front and a 27.5″ wheel on the rear.

The idea is to create a bike that combines the benefits of both wheel sizes, offering the rollover of a big wheel and the bum-clearance and manoeuvrability of the smaller, 27.5″ size. Work up front, party behind.

So the theory goes anyway.

Our steel-frame, mullet mountain bike is the Starling Cycles Twist, built using the 29″ front triangle of a Starling Murmur and the 27.5″ rear triangle of a Starling Swoop. That allows us to build a bike that works well as a mullet, without any bodging or geometry compromises.

Some brands like to simply stick a 27.5″ wheel in the back of their 29″ frames and try to fix it with shock tunes and linkages but, it’s a bodge and rarely works.

Starling Cycles 2021 Twist Enduro Reece (1)

So is a mullet bike better than a 29″ or 27.5″ bike?

Take your front wheel out of the bike, hold the axles and give it a spin. Move it out of plane as if you were going around a corner and feel how it moves in your hands. If you’ve got a 27.5″ and 29″ wheel, give both a go and compare how they feel.

On a bigger diameter wheel, the force required to move the wheel out of plane is greater, very roughly it takes about 15% more force to move a 29″ wheel out of plane than a 27.5″ one.

People often say 29″ rolls better, but, in actual fact, it’s that they track better. If you’re riding rough terrain, big wheels hold a line better and more energy is required to kick them offline. 29″ wheels take more energy to lean over than 27.5″ but once they’re leant over, they feel more stable and hold that position more easily.

So are 27.5″, 29″ or mullet wheels better?

It all comes down to your riding style and your frame size.

If you’re the sort of rider that sits on the bike, ploughs lines and tries to take the fastest and most direct route, you’re probably best suited to the 29″. You’ll benefit from a wheel size that’s less easily knocked out of line and you’ll probably be less interested in quick changes of direction vs straight-line stability. See the Starling Cycles Murmur.

If you’re a more playful rider, someone that likes to move around on the bike and trail, hop, manual, jump and try lots of lines then you’ll probably benefit from 27.5″. You’ll benefit from a wheel size that takes less energy to lean, move around and change direction. See the Starling Cycles Swoop.

And, this is where the mullet wheels setup comes in, in our case the Starling Cycles Twist. People’s perception is that mullet wheels offer some kind of perfect, golden ticket compromise of the two wheel sizes. Sadly, it’s just not the case.

Think of the mullet as fitting somewhere between the two wheel sizes, rather than being the perfect combo of both. They’re not better as such, just a mid-point of the two.

So Why Would You Choose a Mullet MTB?

Mullets aren’t a golden ticket/magic bullet/insert appropriate expression here. But, they are great in many ways.

It’s easier to get more travel from a mullet MTB, the smaller rear wheel offers more clearance and you can design more travel, more easily than with a 29″ wheel.

The smaller rear wheel also gives shorter-legged riders more bum clearance. If you’re buzzing your arse on your 29″ wheeled bike, you might find a mullet helps.

There are also benefits for chainstay length. Our 29″ bike, the Starling Cycles Murmur, has a 445mm chain stay whereas our 27.5″ bikes have a shorter 435mm chain stay. The shorter chain stay makes the bike feel more manoeuvrable, giving the feeling of being more playful, poppier and easier to corner.

There’s also an element of balancing your front triangle size, with your rear triangle. The length of the chain stay needs to match nicely with your front triangle to keep the frame balanced properly.

We’d suggest:

  • XL size frames, we’d go for 29″ back wheel
  • Medium size frames, we’d go for 27.5″ back wheel
  • Small, we’d go for 27.5″ back wheel
  • Large is somewhere in between, so should be driven by your riding style. Pick the size that best suits what you want to get from your riding and your bike.

Can I Convert my Mountain Bike to Mullet?

We get asked this a lot, and a lot of riders with Swoops or Murmurs seem to want to give mullet a shot by either swapping their rear wheel or their fork and front wheel.

The answer to that depends on what frame you have.

Can I switch my 29″ rear triangle to a 27.5″ rear triangle?

Murmur owners can, in theory, convert to a mullet by switching their 29″ chainstay to a 27.5″ chainstay.

This would essentially convert your Murmur into a Twist, with no geometry compromises. Unfortunately, we don’t have enough stock of 27.5″ swingarms to sell them individually so, for now at least we can’t supply them.

That might change in future, but for now, sorry, there’s no way of converting your Murmur to a mullet without geometry compromises.

Can you put a 27.5″ wheel into the 29″ swing arm of your Murmur to make it mullet?

You can in theory, but, the rear axle will drop 20mm, the BB drops significantly and the whole bike slackens out. It’s going to feel different and ride differently… and probably won’t be great once the novelty wears off.

Can you use the adjustable shock mounts to convert your Starling Cycles to mullet?

Again, afraid not. The adjustable dropouts just don’t offer enough movement to compensate for that 20mm axle drop.

Can you fit a 29″ fork to your Swoop to convert to mullet?

You guessed it, nope, sorry! This one is never going to work.

A 27.5″ fork has 20mm difference in axle height vs a 29″ fork and a 20mm difference in fork length. If you stick a 29″ fork in your 27.5″ frame, it’s going to be too slack and will ride crap. You could run a 40mm shorter fork, but, then you’re losing travel and probably down to something like 120mm.

So, technically there are ways to physically convert a mountain bike to mullet, but, it’s always going to come with significant geometry compromises.

In our book, the bike needs to be designed to be specific to the mullet wheel size, rather than bodged to fit.